Apex Trader Funding vs Phidias Propfirm: prop firm rules compared

At the $50,000 account size, Apex Trader Funding's evaluation allows a $2,000 max drawdown (intraday trailing) against Phidias Propfirm's $2,500 (end-of-day trailing), with profit targets of $3,000 and $4,000 respectively. Phidias Propfirm allows the larger drawdown at that size. Neither firm applies a consistency rule. Payouts are up to weekly (max 6 per pa) at Apex Trader Funding and fundamental every 10+ days · premium every 5 days at Phidias Propfirm.

Rule (evaluation phase)
APApex Trader FundingIntraday Trailing model
PHPhidias PropfirmFundamental model
$50,000 account
Profit target$3,000$4,000
Daily loss limitNoneNone
Max drawdown$2,000$2,500
$100,000 account
Profit target$6,000$6,000
Daily loss limitNoneNone
Max drawdown$3,000$3,000
$150,000 account
Profit target$9,000$9,000
Daily loss limitNoneNone
Max drawdown$4,000$4,500
Firm-wide
Drawdown modelIntraday trailingEnd-of-day trailing
Consistency ruleNoneNone
Minimum trading daysNone3 trading days
Profit split100% (PA)80/20 (Fundamental, Express) · 75→100% progressive (Premium)
Payout frequencyUp to weekly (max 6 per PA)Fundamental every 10+ days · Premium every 5 days
Account sizes offered$25,000 · $50,000 · $100,000 · $150,000$50,000 · $100,000 · $150,000
Rules confidenceRules verifiedRules verified

Apex Trader Funding figures are for the Intraday Trailing model; it also sells: End-of-Day Trailing.

Phidias Propfirm figures are for the Fundamental model; it also sells: Premium, Express to Live (static).

Rules last checked against each firm's own documentation on . Firms change their rules often, so confirm the current terms on Apex Trader Funding's site and Phidias Propfirm's site. Spotted a rule that changed? Tell us.

Where Apex Trader Funding and Phidias Propfirm differ

Drawdown model
Apex Trader Funding: Intraday trailing or end-of-day trailing, by plan
Phidias Propfirm: End-of-day trailing on Fundamental and Premium; static on Express to Live
Daily loss limit
Apex Trader Funding: None on Intraday Trailing; soft pause, $1,000 at $50K on End-of-Day Trailing
Phidias Propfirm: None on any plan
Max drawdown at $50K
Apex Trader Funding: $2,000 (Intraday Trailing)
Phidias Propfirm: $2,500 (Fundamental)
Profit target at $50K
Apex Trader Funding: $3,000 (Intraday Trailing)
Phidias Propfirm: $4,000 (Fundamental)
Minimum trading days
Apex Trader Funding: None on any plan
Phidias Propfirm: 3 trading days on Fundamental; 1 trading day on Premium; none on Express to Live
Plans sold
Apex Trader Funding: 2 plans: Intraday Trailing and End-of-Day Trailing
Phidias Propfirm: 3 plans: Fundamental, Premium and Express to Live
Automated trading
Apex Trader Funding: Not allowed in the evaluation or on a funded account
Phidias Propfirm: No written answer on record
Profit split
Apex Trader Funding: 100% (PA)
Phidias Propfirm: 80/20 (Fundamental, Express) · 75→100% progressive (Premium)
Payouts
Apex Trader Funding: Up to weekly (max 6 per PA)
Phidias Propfirm: Fundamental every 10+ days · Premium every 5 days

Apex Trader Funding and Phidias Propfirm in brief

Apex Trader Funding

One evaluation with 30 days of access. Apex 4.0 sells two drawdown models: intraday trailing with no daily loss limit, or end-of-day trailing with a daily loss limit that pauses the session instead of failing the account. The evaluation has no consistency rule and no minimum trading days.

Phidias Propfirm

Express to Live has a static drawdown that never trails. Fundamental and Premium trail at end of day and do not lock during the evaluation. No daily loss limit and no consistency rule in the evaluation.

How these rules play out

Apex Trader Funding's Intraday Trailing plan trails the drawdown intraday: the floor follows the highest balance the account reaches during the session, open profit included, and never moves back down — a winning trade given back before it is closed still lifts it. For example, at Apex Trader Funding's Intraday Trailing plan a $50,000 account starts with its floor at $48,000, $2,000 under the start.

On Apex Trader Funding's End-of-Day Trailing plan and Phidias Propfirm's Fundamental and Premium plans the drawdown trails at end of day: the floor is recalculated once, from the closing balance, so open profit given back during the session does not raise it — but equity touching the floor during the session still counts. For example, at Apex Trader Funding's End-of-Day Trailing plan a $50,000 account starts with its floor at $48,000, $2,000 under the start; at Phidias Propfirm's Fundamental and Premium plans a $50,000 account starts with its floor at $47,500, $2,500 under the start.

Phidias Propfirm's Express to Live plan uses a static drawdown: the floor is set once, the drawdown below the starting balance, and does not move for the whole evaluation. For example, at Phidias Propfirm's Express to Live plan a $50,000 account starts with its floor at $49,350, $650 under the start.

On Apex Trader Funding and Phidias Propfirm's Fundamental and Premium plans it keeps trailing for the whole evaluation.

A soft daily loss limit pauses the day instead of failing the account: reach it and open positions are flattened, trading stops until the next session, and the account stays open. Apex Trader Funding's End-of-Day Trailing plan sets it at $1,000 on $50,000. Apex Trader Funding's Intraday Trailing plan and Phidias Propfirm have no daily loss limit, so a losing day is bounded only by the max drawdown.

Apex Trader Funding starts the trading day at 6:00 PM ET (5:00 PM CT); a daily loss limit counts from that reset, not from midnight.

A consistency rule caps how much of the total profit one day may carry. Neither Apex Trader Funding nor Phidias Propfirm applies a consistency rule in the evaluation, so one large day can count in full toward the target.

Phidias Propfirm requires at least 3 trading days on Fundamental and 1 on Premium before a pass; Apex Trader Funding and Phidias Propfirm's Express to Live plan set no minimum number of days.

Apex Trader Funding's evaluation runs for 30 days; a target not reached by then is not a pass.

On automated trading — a strategy or bot sending the orders — at Apex Trader Funding it is not allowed in the evaluation or on a funded account; Phidias Propfirm has no written answer on record. Written answers: Apex Trader Funding (read ).

Choosing between Apex Trader Funding and Phidias Propfirm

Apex Trader Funding and Phidias Propfirm differ on 5 of the evaluation rules compared here: drawdown model, daily loss limit, max drawdown at $50K, profit target at $50K and minimum trading days. If your trades often run into open profit that you give back before closing them, start with the drawdown: Apex Trader Funding trails intraday or at end of day, depending on the plan, while Phidias Propfirm trails at end of day or holds a static floor, depending on the plan. If you keep trading after a losing morning, look at what the daily loss limit does: Apex Trader Funding pauses the day at its daily loss limit on some plans and has no limit on others; Phidias Propfirm has no daily loss limit. In dollars at $50K, Apex Trader Funding asks for $3,000 of profit with $2,000 of drawdown room, Phidias Propfirm for $4,000 with $2,500. To finish in as few sessions as possible, compare the minimum days: Apex Trader Funding sets no minimum, Phidias Propfirm sets no minimum on some plans and up to 3 trading days on others.

Once funded, the profit split is 100% (PA) at Apex Trader Funding and 80/20 (Fundamental, Express) · 75→100% progressive (Premium) at Phidias Propfirm. Payout terms — Apex Trader Funding: Up to weekly (max 6 per PA); Phidias Propfirm: Fundamental every 10+ days · Premium every 5 days. Apex Trader Funding sells 2 plans: Intraday Trailing and End-of-Day Trailing; Phidias Propfirm sells 3 plans: Fundamental, Premium and Express to Live. Each plan carries its own version of the rules above, which is why they are listed plan by plan. If a strategy or bot will send your orders, Apex Trader Funding's written answer is not allowed in the evaluation or on a funded account, and Phidias Propfirm has no written answer on record.

Read both rule sets against your own average day, then confirm the current terms on Apex Trader Funding's site and Phidias Propfirm's site. PassTraq tracks challenges at both firms using the same rule presets shown here.

Apex Trader Funding vs Phidias Propfirm: quick answers

Which has the larger drawdown at $50K, Apex Trader Funding or Phidias Propfirm?

Phidias Propfirm. Apex Trader Funding allows $2,000 (intraday trailing) and Phidias Propfirm $2,500 (end-of-day trailing) on a $50,000 evaluation.

Does Apex Trader Funding or Phidias Propfirm have a consistency rule?

Neither applies one in the evaluation.

Which has a daily loss limit, Apex Trader Funding or Phidias Propfirm?

Apex Trader Funding: no daily loss limit on Intraday Trailing; a soft limit that pauses the day ($1,000 at $50K) on End-of-Day Trailing. Phidias Propfirm: no daily loss limit on any plan.

Can you trade with a bot or strategy at Apex Trader Funding or Phidias Propfirm?

Apex Trader Funding: not allowed in the evaluation or on a funded account. Phidias Propfirm: no written answer on record.

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