Lucid Trading vs The5ers Futures: prop firm rules compared
At the $50,000 account size, Lucid Trading's evaluation allows a $2,000 max drawdown (end-of-day trailing, locks at breakeven) against The5ers Futures' $2,000 (end-of-day trailing), with the same $3,000 profit target. Both allow the same dollar drawdown at that size. Payouts are on request once eligible at Lucid Trading and bi-weekly (every 14 days) at The5ers Futures.
| Rule (evaluation phase) | LCLucid TradingLucidPro model | |
|---|---|---|
| $25,000 account | ||
| Profit target | $1,250 | $1,500 |
| Daily loss limit | None | None |
| Max drawdown | $1,000 | $1,000 |
| $50,000 account | ||
| Profit target | $3,000 | $3,000 |
| Daily loss limit | $1,200 (soft pause) | None |
| Max drawdown | $2,000 | $2,000 |
| Firm-wide | ||
| Drawdown model | End-of-day trailing, locks at breakeven | End-of-day trailing |
| Consistency rule | None | not verified — check the firm's site |
| Minimum trading days | not verified — check the firm's site | None |
| Profit split | 90/10 | 80/20 |
| Payout frequency | On request once eligible | Bi-weekly (every 14 days) |
| Account sizes offered | $25,000 · $50,000 · $100,000 · $150,000 | $25,000 · $50,000 |
| Rules confidence | Rules verified | Rules approximate |
Lucid Trading figures are for the LucidPro model; it also sells: LucidFlex, LucidDaily (EOD eval), LucidDaily (intraday eval), LucidDirect (no eval — target = first payout goal).
Rules last checked against each firm's own documentation on . Firms change their rules often, so confirm the current terms on Lucid Trading's site and The5ers Futures' site. Spotted a rule that changed? Tell us.
Where Lucid Trading and The5ers Futures differ
- Drawdown model
- Lucid Trading: End-of-day trailing on LucidPro, LucidFlex, LucidDaily (EOD eval) and LucidDirect; intraday trailing on LucidDaily (intraday eval)
- The5ers Futures: End-of-day trailing
- Daily loss limit
- Lucid Trading: Soft pause, $1,200 at $50K on LucidPro, LucidDaily (EOD eval), LucidDaily (intraday eval) and LucidDirect; none on LucidFlex
- The5ers Futures: None
- Plans sold
- Lucid Trading: 4 plans: LucidPro, LucidFlex, LucidDaily and LucidDirect
- The5ers Futures: One evaluation model
- Account sizes, all plans
- Lucid Trading: $25K · $50K · $100K · $150K
- The5ers Futures: $25K · $50K
- Automated trading
- Lucid Trading: Allowed in the evaluation and on a funded account
- The5ers Futures: No written answer on record
- Profit split
- Lucid Trading: 90/10
- The5ers Futures: 80/20
- Payouts
- Lucid Trading: On request once eligible
- The5ers Futures: Bi-weekly (every 14 days)
Lucid Trading and The5ers Futures in brief
Lucid Trading
Four plans: LucidPro, LucidFlex, LucidDaily and LucidDirect. Every plan trails at end of day and locks at the initial balance plus $100; the LucidDaily evaluation is also sold with intraday trailing. Every daily loss limit is soft, a "soft breach" that does not fail the account.
The5ers Futures
One evaluation, Day Trade or Swing. A 6% profit target and a 4% end-of-day trailing max loss, with no published daily loss limit. A 40% consistency rule delays the pass but is never a breach. BlackArrow only; no Rithmic.
How these rules play out
Lucid Trading's LucidDaily (intraday eval) plan trails the drawdown intraday: the floor follows the highest balance the account reaches during the session, open profit included, and never moves back down — a winning trade given back before it is closed still lifts it. For example, at Lucid Trading's LucidDaily (intraday eval) plan a $50,000 account starts with its floor at $48,000, $2,000 under the start.
On Lucid Trading's LucidPro, LucidFlex, LucidDaily (EOD eval) and LucidDirect plans and The5ers Futures the drawdown trails at end of day: the floor is recalculated once, from the closing balance, so open profit given back during the session does not raise it — but equity touching the floor during the session still counts. For example, at Lucid Trading's LucidPro, LucidFlex, LucidDaily (EOD eval) and LucidDirect plans and The5ers Futures a $50,000 account starts with its floor at $48,000, $2,000 under the start.
On Lucid Trading's LucidPro, LucidFlex, LucidDaily (EOD eval) and LucidDirect plans the trailing floor stops rising once it reaches breakeven and stays there.
A soft daily loss limit pauses the day instead of failing the account: reach it and open positions are flattened, trading stops until the next session, and the account stays open. Lucid Trading's LucidPro, LucidDaily (EOD eval), LucidDaily (intraday eval) and LucidDirect plans set it at $1,200 on $50,000. Lucid Trading's LucidFlex plan and The5ers Futures have no daily loss limit, so a losing day is bounded only by the max drawdown.
Lucid Trading starts the trading day at 6:00 PM ET (5:00 PM CT); a daily loss limit counts from that reset, not from midnight.
A consistency rule caps how much of the total profit one day may carry. Lucid Trading's LucidFlex plan caps any single day at 40% of total profit, so it takes at least 3 profitable days to finish inside the rule. One day may then carry at most $1,200 of a $3,000 target. Lucid Trading's LucidDaily (EOD eval) and LucidDaily (intraday eval) plans cap any single day at 50% of total profit, so it takes at least 2 profitable days to finish inside the rule. One day may then carry at most $1,500 of a $3,000 target. Lucid Trading's LucidDirect plan caps any single day at 20% of total profit, so it takes at least 5 profitable days to finish inside the rule. One day may then carry at most $600 of a $3,000 target. Lucid Trading's LucidPro plan applies no consistency rule in the evaluation, so one large day can count in full.
The5ers Futures sets no minimum number of days.
On automated trading — a strategy or bot sending the orders — at Lucid Trading it is allowed in the evaluation and on a funded account; The5ers Futures has no written answer on record. Written answers: Lucid Trading (read ).
Choosing between Lucid Trading and The5ers Futures
Lucid Trading and The5ers Futures differ on 2 of the evaluation rules compared here: drawdown model and daily loss limit. If your trades often run into open profit that you give back before closing them, start with the drawdown: Lucid Trading trails intraday or at end of day, depending on the plan, while The5ers Futures trails at end of day. If you keep trading after a losing morning, look at what the daily loss limit does: Lucid Trading pauses the day at its daily loss limit on some plans and has no limit on others; The5ers Futures has no daily loss limit.
Once funded, the profit split is 90/10 at Lucid Trading and 80/20 at The5ers Futures. Payout terms — Lucid Trading: On request once eligible; The5ers Futures: Bi-weekly (every 14 days). Lucid Trading sells 4 plans: LucidPro, LucidFlex, LucidDaily and LucidDirect; The5ers Futures sells one evaluation model. Each plan carries its own version of the rules above, which is why they are listed plan by plan. If a strategy or bot will send your orders, Lucid Trading's written answer is allowed in the evaluation and on a funded account, and The5ers Futures has no written answer on record.
Read both rule sets against your own average day, then confirm the current terms on Lucid Trading's site and The5ers Futures' site. PassTraq tracks challenges at both firms using the same rule presets shown here.
Lucid Trading vs The5ers Futures: quick answers
Which has the larger drawdown at $50K, Lucid Trading or The5ers Futures?
Neither: both allow $2,000 on a $50,000 evaluation (Lucid Trading: end-of-day trailing; The5ers Futures: end-of-day trailing).
Which has a daily loss limit, Lucid Trading or The5ers Futures?
Lucid Trading: a soft limit that pauses the day ($1,200 at $50K) on LucidPro, LucidDaily (EOD eval), LucidDaily (intraday eval) and LucidDirect; no daily loss limit on LucidFlex. The5ers Futures: no daily loss limit.
Can you trade with a bot or strategy at Lucid Trading or The5ers Futures?
Lucid Trading: allowed in the evaluation and on a funded account. The5ers Futures: no written answer on record.
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