Phidias Propfirm vs Blueberry Futures: prop firm rules compared
At the $50,000 account size, Phidias Propfirm's evaluation allows a $2,500 max drawdown (end-of-day trailing) against Blueberry Futures' $2,000 (end-of-day trailing), with profit targets of $4,000 and $3,000 respectively. Phidias Propfirm allows the larger drawdown at that size. Neither firm applies a consistency rule. Payouts are fundamental every 10+ days · premium every 5 days at Phidias Propfirm and after 5 profitable days of $200+ at Blueberry Futures.
| Rule (evaluation phase) | PHPhidias PropfirmFundamental model | BFBlueberry FuturesAscent model |
|---|---|---|
| $50,000 account | ||
| Profit target | $4,000 | $3,000 |
| Daily loss limit | None | None |
| Max drawdown | $2,500 | $2,000 |
| $100,000 account | ||
| Profit target | $6,000 | $6,000 |
| Daily loss limit | None | None |
| Max drawdown | $3,000 | $3,000 |
| $150,000 account | ||
| Profit target | $9,000 | $10,000 |
| Daily loss limit | None | None |
| Max drawdown | $4,500 | $4,500 |
| Firm-wide | ||
| Drawdown model | End-of-day trailing | End-of-day trailing |
| Consistency rule | None | None |
| Minimum trading days | 3 trading days | 2 trading days |
| Profit split | 80/20 (Fundamental, Express) · 75→100% progressive (Premium) | 90/10 |
| Payout frequency | Fundamental every 10+ days · Premium every 5 days | After 5 profitable days of $200+ |
| Account sizes offered | $50,000 · $100,000 · $150,000 | $25,000 · $50,000 · $100,000 · $150,000 |
| Rules confidence | Rules verified | Rules verified |
Phidias Propfirm figures are for the Fundamental model; it also sells: Premium, Express to Live (static).
Blueberry Futures figures are for the Ascent model; it also sells: Accelerated.
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Where Phidias Propfirm and Blueberry Futures differ
- Drawdown model
- Phidias Propfirm: End-of-day trailing on Fundamental and Premium; static on Express to Live
- Blueberry Futures: End-of-day trailing on Ascent; intraday trailing on Accelerated
- Max drawdown at $50K
- Phidias Propfirm: $2,500 (Fundamental)
- Blueberry Futures: $2,000 (Ascent)
- Profit target at $50K
- Phidias Propfirm: $4,000 (Fundamental)
- Blueberry Futures: $3,000 (Ascent)
- Minimum trading days
- Phidias Propfirm: 3 trading days on Fundamental; 1 trading day on Premium; none on Express to Live
- Blueberry Futures: 2 trading days on Ascent; 1 trading day on Accelerated
- Plans sold
- Phidias Propfirm: 3 plans: Fundamental, Premium and Express to Live
- Blueberry Futures: 2 plans: Ascent and Accelerated
- Profit split
- Phidias Propfirm: 80/20 (Fundamental, Express) · 75→100% progressive (Premium)
- Blueberry Futures: 90/10
- Payouts
- Phidias Propfirm: Fundamental every 10+ days · Premium every 5 days
- Blueberry Futures: After 5 profitable days of $200+
Phidias Propfirm and Blueberry Futures in brief
Phidias Propfirm
Express to Live has a static drawdown that never trails. Fundamental and Premium trail at end of day and do not lock during the evaluation. No daily loss limit and no consistency rule in the evaluation.
Blueberry Futures
Ascent trails at end of day with a 2-day minimum; Accelerated trails intraday with a 1-day minimum. Both use the same dollar limits, have no daily loss limit and give 30 days to pass. Black Arrow only.
How these rules play out
Blueberry Futures' Accelerated plan trails the drawdown intraday: the floor follows the highest balance the account reaches during the session, open profit included, and never moves back down — a winning trade given back before it is closed still lifts it. For example, at Blueberry Futures' Accelerated plan a $50,000 account starts with its floor at $48,000, $2,000 under the start.
On Phidias Propfirm's Fundamental and Premium plans and Blueberry Futures' Ascent plan the drawdown trails at end of day: the floor is recalculated once, from the closing balance, so open profit given back during the session does not raise it — but equity touching the floor during the session still counts. For example, at Phidias Propfirm's Fundamental and Premium plans a $50,000 account starts with its floor at $47,500, $2,500 under the start; at Blueberry Futures' Ascent plan a $50,000 account starts with its floor at $48,000, $2,000 under the start.
Phidias Propfirm's Express to Live plan uses a static drawdown: the floor is set once, the drawdown below the starting balance, and does not move for the whole evaluation. For example, at Phidias Propfirm's Express to Live plan a $50,000 account starts with its floor at $49,350, $650 under the start.
On Phidias Propfirm's Fundamental and Premium plans it keeps trailing for the whole evaluation.
Phidias Propfirm and Blueberry Futures have no daily loss limit, so a losing day is bounded only by the max drawdown.
A consistency rule caps how much of the total profit one day may carry. Neither Phidias Propfirm nor Blueberry Futures applies a consistency rule in the evaluation, so one large day can count in full toward the target.
Phidias Propfirm requires at least 3 trading days on Fundamental and 1 on Premium before a pass; Blueberry Futures requires at least 2 trading days on Ascent and 1 on Accelerated before a pass; Phidias Propfirm's Express to Live plan sets no minimum number of days.
Blueberry Futures' evaluation runs for 30 days; a target not reached by then is not a pass.
Choosing between Phidias Propfirm and Blueberry Futures
Phidias Propfirm and Blueberry Futures differ on 4 of the evaluation rules compared here: drawdown model, max drawdown at $50K, profit target at $50K and minimum trading days. If your trades often run into open profit that you give back before closing them, start with the drawdown: Phidias Propfirm trails at end of day or holds a static floor, depending on the plan, while Blueberry Futures trails intraday or at end of day, depending on the plan. In dollars at $50K, Phidias Propfirm asks for $4,000 of profit with $2,500 of drawdown room, Blueberry Futures for $3,000 with $2,000. To finish in as few sessions as possible, compare the minimum days: Phidias Propfirm sets no minimum on some plans and up to 3 trading days on others, Blueberry Futures needs 1 to 2 trading days, depending on the plan.
Once funded, the profit split is 80/20 (Fundamental, Express) · 75→100% progressive (Premium) at Phidias Propfirm and 90/10 at Blueberry Futures. Payout terms — Phidias Propfirm: Fundamental every 10+ days · Premium every 5 days; Blueberry Futures: After 5 profitable days of $200+. Phidias Propfirm sells 3 plans: Fundamental, Premium and Express to Live; Blueberry Futures sells 2 plans: Ascent and Accelerated. Each plan carries its own version of the rules above, which is why they are listed plan by plan.
Read both rule sets against your own average day, then confirm the current terms on Phidias Propfirm's site and Blueberry Futures' site. PassTraq tracks challenges at both firms using the same rule presets shown here.
Phidias Propfirm vs Blueberry Futures: quick answers
Which has the larger drawdown at $50K, Phidias Propfirm or Blueberry Futures?
Phidias Propfirm. Phidias Propfirm allows $2,500 (end-of-day trailing) and Blueberry Futures $2,000 (end-of-day trailing) on a $50,000 evaluation.
Does Phidias Propfirm or Blueberry Futures have a consistency rule?
Neither applies one in the evaluation.
Which has a daily loss limit, Phidias Propfirm or Blueberry Futures?
Neither: both bound a losing day only by the max drawdown.
How many trading days do Phidias Propfirm and Blueberry Futures require?
Phidias Propfirm: 3 trading days on Fundamental; 1 trading day on Premium; no minimum on Express to Live. Blueberry Futures: 2 trading days on Ascent; 1 trading day on Accelerated.
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